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  • #69842
     AHOGAN
      • Experience: 20+ years
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      Hi All!

      Here at PCPA we do shows in our outdoor theater in Solvang.  At 9pm the dew settles in and  sometimes we have a slick floor issue.  For the past several years we have been able to deal with the slipperiness by a team effort between myself, costumes, stage crew (cleanliness of space) and choreography.  Occasionally, for tap shows, we put some no slip powder in the sealer and seal the floor with that.

      This year I have had a real problem finding my favorite Deftthane satin polyurethane.  I used some BEHR satin poly and that stuff was extra slick surface.  Out of desperation, three weeks ago after our first tech/dress, I mopped JASCO TSP replacer on the deck and let it dry.  Since that ONE application, we have had no problems!

      Here are the particulars:

      Stage floor: MDF Painted and sealed with BEHR satin Polyurethane.  Floor was slick even before dewpoint

      TSP application:   non scientifically, I blithely decided to put 24 ounces of JASCO TSP replacer into each gallon of mop water and mopped it on and let it dry.  Don’t get me wrong- I was terrified it could have been TOO sticky or still too slippery…. I called  the company to get technical advice, to see if it was something that sticks to the surface or if it etched the surface.  The company help line WAS NO HELP .  I called my favorite paint store rep and he said that TSP replacer lightly etches the surface.  I believe him

      Daily Maintenance:  Stage Crew sweeps and mops backstage with dedicated brooms and mops for backstage to keep offstage FILTH off of the deck.  Deck is swept and mopped with dedicated brooms and mops for on deck.  They have been mopping with  just clear clean water and the floor has remained the same level of non slip for 3 weeks.

      I am so happy for myself and for scenic artists and actors everywhere!!!!

       

      Abby Hogan

      PCPA

      #72243
       Mary Novodvorsky
        • Experience: 20+ years
        • Scenic Status: Full Time Regular

        Did the TSP change the sheen at all?

        Mary N

        #72921
         Cristina Anselmo
          • Experience: 20+ years
          • Scenic Status: Part Time Freelance

          The dancers at my company do NOT like that Behr flat polyurethane I’ve used. Learned that lesson. Great for white walls, though!

          I had some problems with that Rosco Premeire Clear for a while, as all the buckets that were sitting for 2 pandemic years got irretrievably gummy at the bottom. Couldn’t thin the globs out. It’s now up to $126 /gal here, unbelievable! Three years ago I swear it was $70.  (Doesn’t seem to be globby now.) It cures quickly, though,  I’ll give it that.

          Many thanks for the tip about the Defthane and the Jasco product!<3

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           AHOGAN
            • Experience: 20+ years
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            Hi Mary,

            The sheen did not really change, but there were kind of like indications of where the TSP replacer had been mopped.  I was worried at first, but knew that the safety factor was most important.  In the end the mop/tsp replacer indications did not show up under lights at all.  I was surprised.  It definitely looked much better than the times I had added that no slip powder to the sealer.

            Abby

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             AHOGAN
              • Experience: 20+ years
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              Hi Anselmo,

              I got a grant and right before pandemic I bought a bunch of consumables.

              I never ever knew that masking tape had a shelf life!  I have so much tape that is being difficult because it is old.  I also lost some paint because it got old too.

              #73542
               Angelique Powers
                • Experience: 20+ years
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                Abby,

                Thanks so much for your detailed account of how to use the TSP replacer, totally putting that trick in my back pocket.

                My follow up question is – what “no-slip powder” mix in are you using?  and where in your process are you using it?

                I ask because I have used Rustoleum Anti-Slip additive, and I tend to do in my base coat.  But since I only need todo it once every 5 years, I’m sure there is a better method.

                Q in Minneapolis

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                 AHOGAN
                  • Experience: 20+ years
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                  Hi Angelique,

                  I have also used that Anti Slip additive, and it has usually been put in the sealer after we realize the floor is too slippery.

                  It is NOT a great solution visually.  It kind of gets clumped up at the bottom of the sealer bucket and just looks crappy.  Safety-wise it helped a lot.

                  The next time we do a tap show in our outdoor theater, I will plan ahead and think about putting it in the basecoat.

                  Other than tap shows, I’m going to keep trying the TSP for slickness issues

                   

                  Abby

                   

                   

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